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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first dream I remember that I knew intuitvely was different was when I was 5. For years I have tried to articulate what was so strange and unique about this first dream. I have never been able to put it I felt in proper context to explain it to anyone who has not had the same type of dream. The best I can say with the first dream the face seemed out of focus yet the body I could see. It was almost as if the face was miles away from its body. That first dream there was no movement or sound. But that dreamed has stayed with me till this day. It was many years later before I had another dream this time the figure was shadowy and blurred but this time it spoke its voice was on a level I was not accustomed to, almost voice in 3-D. This time he told me I was dreaming that I had a few minutes and that if I wanted he would show me my future if I choose the path I have yet to What I saw was of no real importance it was more the manner of how it seemed to try and constantly remind me I was in a dream and that it would soon awaken me. As soon as it said wake up I did. The second night I heard a loud voice yell &quot;WAKE UP&quot; and I did. The third night once again just a voice that told me&quot;He will build it with his hands&quot; 

That was the last dreams for some years and then once again I had a series of four dreams. Each time I was told I was dreaming. I was instructed what I would see in each dream. One of them was one of the most frightening dreams I have ever had but I was not scared. I did not feel that the precense was there to harm me. 

Nothing in these four dreams made sense to me on any level that I understood the universe or creation as I had known it prior. 

I recently had one dream one I feel for some reason might be the last. This time I was the one in control in a future that I do not know if I am part of. 

I have always wondered why I have had these dreams. I am a believer in most things have a logical reasoning. I believe in controlling ones desire to suceemb to what they witness and dream. But I also believe in the science that says we are a species that is still in a early stage of evolution. We use so little of our brain and have such a small amount of understanding as to how our universe works. I know that I really know nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first dream I remember that I knew intuitvely was different was when I was 5. For years I have tried to articulate what was so strange and unique about this first dream. I have never been able to put it I felt in proper context to explain it to anyone who has not had the same type of dream. The best I can say with the first dream the face seemed out of focus yet the body I could see. It was almost as if the face was miles away from its body. That first dream there was no movement or sound. But that dreamed has stayed with me till this day. It was many years later before I had another dream this time the figure was shadowy and blurred but this time it spoke its voice was on a level I was not accustomed to, almost voice in 3-D. This time he told me I was dreaming that I had a few minutes and that if I wanted he would show me my future if I choose the path I have yet to What I saw was of no real importance it was more the manner of how it seemed to try and constantly remind me I was in a dream and that it would soon awaken me. As soon as it said wake up I did. The second night I heard a loud voice yell &#8220;WAKE UP&#8221; and I did. The third night once again just a voice that told me&#8221;He will build it with his hands&#8221; </p>
<p>That was the last dreams for some years and then once again I had a series of four dreams. Each time I was told I was dreaming. I was instructed what I would see in each dream. One of them was one of the most frightening dreams I have ever had but I was not scared. I did not feel that the precense was there to harm me. </p>
<p>Nothing in these four dreams made sense to me on any level that I understood the universe or creation as I had known it prior. </p>
<p>I recently had one dream one I feel for some reason might be the last. This time I was the one in control in a future that I do not know if I am part of. </p>
<p>I have always wondered why I have had these dreams. I am a believer in most things have a logical reasoning. I believe in controlling ones desire to suceemb to what they witness and dream. But I also believe in the science that says we are a species that is still in a early stage of evolution. We use so little of our brain and have such a small amount of understanding as to how our universe works. I know that I really know nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had several &quot;training&quot; dreams where my sensei teaches me these special techniques. I practice traditional japanese budo, and at stressful moments in my training I get these training dreams. 

I don&#039;t really understand the full lesson or importance of what I have seen in these dreams,that they are even true techniques, but I know that I feel what he is trying to convey is extremely important.

I&#039;ve had several visits from malicious beings too, resulting in nightmares. To me, my fist feeling is of annoyance, because I know that I cannot ignore them lest I suffer their childish games playing on my fears. but shooing them away is really only an inconvenience for me because I use the esoteric teachings from Daoism and Mikkyo Budhism to combat them.

Each visit though, I am grateful for, because it is another type of lesson to learn and grow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had several &#8220;training&#8221; dreams where my sensei teaches me these special techniques. I practice traditional japanese budo, and at stressful moments in my training I get these training dreams. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really understand the full lesson or importance of what I have seen in these dreams,that they are even true techniques, but I know that I feel what he is trying to convey is extremely important.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had several visits from malicious beings too, resulting in nightmares. To me, my fist feeling is of annoyance, because I know that I cannot ignore them lest I suffer their childish games playing on my fears. but shooing them away is really only an inconvenience for me because I use the esoteric teachings from Daoism and Mikkyo Budhism to combat them.</p>
<p>Each visit though, I am grateful for, because it is another type of lesson to learn and grow!</p>
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		<title>By: Dule</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-1274</link>
		<dc:creator>Dule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bringing the sword into the dream does work. It takes a while to be able to do so. It was a samurai sword. In the beginning it had to be close to me but now I can simply manifest it when I need it.

For me though it was a way to fight and protect myself, and others.

This worked for years until last night. When I found out that I&#039;m going to need something more. Like Laura I am also a Christian and have faith in God. But the attack last night was the first one I had in years, and it was the first time I couldn&#039;t beat the monster that appeared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bringing the sword into the dream does work. It takes a while to be able to do so. It was a samurai sword. In the beginning it had to be close to me but now I can simply manifest it when I need it.</p>
<p>For me though it was a way to fight and protect myself, and others.</p>
<p>This worked for years until last night. When I found out that I&#8217;m going to need something more. Like Laura I am also a Christian and have faith in God. But the attack last night was the first one I had in years, and it was the first time I couldn&#8217;t beat the monster that appeared.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Indians were undoubtably onto something.  There has been a great deal of knowledge lost in our materialistic and scientific age.

When touching things in dreams I have always been amazed at the vivid level of detail they possess.  I once stopped to pick up some small stones - and they felt more real than real.  Quite a powerful experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indians were undoubtably onto something.  There has been a great deal of knowledge lost in our materialistic and scientific age.</p>
<p>When touching things in dreams I have always been amazed at the vivid level of detail they possess.  I once stopped to pick up some small stones &#8211; and they felt more real than real.  Quite a powerful experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marcus,

Thank you for the advice.  I&#039;ll give manifestation a try. 

Once I started talking my experiences escalated in frequency and took on a different character.  It&#039;s almost as if you become more &quot;valuable&quot; to them.  You may also want to reach out and touch something in your dream. For example, stop to pick up a rock, or put your hand out to feel a wall.  You will be quite surprised.  It may upset your dream mates. 

I&#039;ve been thinking about giving a dreamcatcher a try.  Maybe the early american Indians were on to something!

Sweet Dreams.
Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marcus,</p>
<p>Thank you for the advice.  I&#8217;ll give manifestation a try. </p>
<p>Once I started talking my experiences escalated in frequency and took on a different character.  It&#8217;s almost as if you become more &#8220;valuable&#8221; to them.  You may also want to reach out and touch something in your dream. For example, stop to pick up a rock, or put your hand out to feel a wall.  You will be quite surprised.  It may upset your dream mates. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about giving a dreamcatcher a try.  Maybe the early american Indians were on to something!</p>
<p>Sweet Dreams.<br />
Laura</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura, nice to hear from you! Talking about these experiences with people certainly can be problematic as you point out.  In many cases people don&#039;t even pay much attention to their dreams, so I suppose it isn&#039;t too surprising that these sorts of experiences are a bit beyond their scope of accepting.

The weapon I found - although literally a weapon - is more important because of its personal symbolic meaning.  It is a katana, or Samurai Sword.  Swords have a special deep meaning to me.  The visitations kept occurring, until the day I found this sword and kept it next to my bed. I then gained the ability to manifest this sword into my dream-scape when these visitors would appear.

But like I said, it isn&#039;t about violence.  It is the symbolic meaning.  For me, the sword is a talisman or charm.  Other people may use a religious symbol or item of personal meaning / value.  I simply found that such symbols, when kept nearby whilst you sleep - grant you a certain &#039;power&#039; or &#039;protection&#039; for want of better words.

Hope that is of some help to you.

Also, I find it really interesting that you ask questions whilst dreaming. I think that is a fantastic oppertunity and idea, and will be trying it out for myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura, nice to hear from you! Talking about these experiences with people certainly can be problematic as you point out.  In many cases people don&#8217;t even pay much attention to their dreams, so I suppose it isn&#8217;t too surprising that these sorts of experiences are a bit beyond their scope of accepting.</p>
<p>The weapon I found &#8211; although literally a weapon &#8211; is more important because of its personal symbolic meaning.  It is a katana, or Samurai Sword.  Swords have a special deep meaning to me.  The visitations kept occurring, until the day I found this sword and kept it next to my bed. I then gained the ability to manifest this sword into my dream-scape when these visitors would appear.</p>
<p>But like I said, it isn&#8217;t about violence.  It is the symbolic meaning.  For me, the sword is a talisman or charm.  Other people may use a religious symbol or item of personal meaning / value.  I simply found that such symbols, when kept nearby whilst you sleep &#8211; grant you a certain &#8216;power&#8217; or &#8216;protection&#8217; for want of better words.</p>
<p>Hope that is of some help to you.</p>
<p>Also, I find it really interesting that you ask questions whilst dreaming. I think that is a fantastic oppertunity and idea, and will be trying it out for myself!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to have found this website. This is not the sort of thing you can discuss with many peoople. I&#039;ve tried discussing it with my friends and now they think I am crazy. 

The dreams are not as disconcerting as meeting the visitor before and sometimes after the dream state.  On occasion I can actually see them entering or leaving my room.  They will either sit on my bed or lie down next to me.  I am a christian with a strong faith and don&#039;t have any fear of these encounters (God is almighty).  Those visitors that do appear to me are there for mischief and I know I am in for a rough night. They try to frighten me and somethimes speak to me. At this juncture I force myself awake and move to another bed. I had a positive occurrance two weeks ago and have not had any more bad visitors. Visitors are still coming, I know they are there but they do not try to interact with me they just go about weaving their dreams and leave me alone.  I have been successful at programming myself to &quot;wake&quot; inside my dream and ask questions, sometimes I get answers.

What I would like to know is what &quot;weapon&quot; you use to get rid of them. I don&#039;t mind my benign visiors but in caes those nasty characters come back I want to be prepared.

Thanks for your help and understanding.

Wags</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to have found this website. This is not the sort of thing you can discuss with many peoople. I&#8217;ve tried discussing it with my friends and now they think I am crazy. </p>
<p>The dreams are not as disconcerting as meeting the visitor before and sometimes after the dream state.  On occasion I can actually see them entering or leaving my room.  They will either sit on my bed or lie down next to me.  I am a christian with a strong faith and don&#8217;t have any fear of these encounters (God is almighty).  Those visitors that do appear to me are there for mischief and I know I am in for a rough night. They try to frighten me and somethimes speak to me. At this juncture I force myself awake and move to another bed. I had a positive occurrance two weeks ago and have not had any more bad visitors. Visitors are still coming, I know they are there but they do not try to interact with me they just go about weaving their dreams and leave me alone.  I have been successful at programming myself to &#8220;wake&#8221; inside my dream and ask questions, sometimes I get answers.</p>
<p>What I would like to know is what &#8220;weapon&#8221; you use to get rid of them. I don&#8217;t mind my benign visiors but in caes those nasty characters come back I want to be prepared.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help and understanding.</p>
<p>Wags</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/dream-visitors/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of a delay in responding to you, I have been away for a few days!

Well to me, those dreams certainly sound prescient.  I mean the first time you can just put down to chance.  Twice is somehow more than coincidence, but three times!

I wouldn&#039;t put too much on the fact that what you saw in the dream didn&#039;t correspond to the physical environments of the real events.  Your mind is simply interpreting the information it has accessed in its own way.

I don&#039;t know if this has ever happened to you, but sometimes I am asleep and my alarm-clock will go off.  Except I don&#039;t wake up immediately, and my sub-conscious will interpret the alarm in an odd way.  I will dream, of a truck reversing or something like that.

Most visions (and some premonitions) are actually like this.  It is also why there is that adage of not being able to fully understand prophecy until the event as passed.  On the one level we are accessing future, past or distant events.  On the other level we aren&#039;t physically there, so our mind has to &quot;fill in the gaps&quot; so to speak.

I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about prescient dreams - it&#039;s not likely you will have them constantly.  All these sorts of phenomena tend to happen whenever we take another step of spiritual growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of a delay in responding to you, I have been away for a few days!</p>
<p>Well to me, those dreams certainly sound prescient.  I mean the first time you can just put down to chance.  Twice is somehow more than coincidence, but three times!</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put too much on the fact that what you saw in the dream didn&#8217;t correspond to the physical environments of the real events.  Your mind is simply interpreting the information it has accessed in its own way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this has ever happened to you, but sometimes I am asleep and my alarm-clock will go off.  Except I don&#8217;t wake up immediately, and my sub-conscious will interpret the alarm in an odd way.  I will dream, of a truck reversing or something like that.</p>
<p>Most visions (and some premonitions) are actually like this.  It is also why there is that adage of not being able to fully understand prophecy until the event as passed.  On the one level we are accessing future, past or distant events.  On the other level we aren&#8217;t physically there, so our mind has to &#8220;fill in the gaps&#8221; so to speak.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about prescient dreams &#8211; it&#8217;s not likely you will have them constantly.  All these sorts of phenomena tend to happen whenever we take another step of spiritual growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Gen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once in a while I&#039;ll have dreams that make me wonder if the rituals are having some effect on them. But I believe the majority of my dreams still fall into the ordinary; but then there are the rare dreams that makes me wonder.

I&#039;ve had several such dreams all in the month of July -- and haven&#039;t had since then, at least to my conscious recollection. The first two involved events concerning people I have no connections or history with, and the last involved a friend of mine.

Originally after waking, I just thought the dreams to be strange but left a few brief notes regarding it since it left an impression on me nonetheless. Following the first of these dreams, I wrote, &quot;hundreds of miles away&quot;, &quot;sea tower that once stood at Ward&quot;, and &quot;explosion.&quot; I was lazy and that&#039;s all I jotted down, but within 24 hrs. I happened to see a news report which made me pause. There was a plane landing accident somewhere in Europe and one of the control towers was struck and there was perhaps an explosion. Definitely not in exact accordance with the images in the dream for the location of the dream involved a local area which I&#039;m familiar with, but the meaning and the similarity in the theme of the dream made me a bit nervous.

The next dream followed three or five days after this. In it I was on a bus and we were about to get swept away in a very strong current of water (in the dream it looked like a river under a concrete bridge)but I managed to &quot;will&quot; myself against the current and make it back to safe ground. Less than 24 hours later I happen to be watching the news and my attention was caught immediately by the report of a family who were spending time at the beach; their little boy was swept away by the currents and drowned despite the father trying to rescue him.

The last of the series involves a friend who was away on a trip at the time. I can&#039;t recall the exact sequence or the images involved but I do remember that my friend looked very withdrawn and depressed and I got the impression that this meant things weren&#039;t going well for him on his trip. Leaving out personal details aside, on his return he confirmed that things didn&#039;t turn out the way he&#039;d wanted but that he was &quot;fine&quot; with it -- I doubt that somehow.

I don&#039;t know for sure if these dreams are in any way related to the real events but they were certainly odd for me. What strikes me is that the images I see doesn&#039;t exactly correspond with the real events, but the underlying meaning with the general images of  the dream and the feeling and impression it left on me seem to match the real events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once in a while I&#8217;ll have dreams that make me wonder if the rituals are having some effect on them. But I believe the majority of my dreams still fall into the ordinary; but then there are the rare dreams that makes me wonder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had several such dreams all in the month of July &#8212; and haven&#8217;t had since then, at least to my conscious recollection. The first two involved events concerning people I have no connections or history with, and the last involved a friend of mine.</p>
<p>Originally after waking, I just thought the dreams to be strange but left a few brief notes regarding it since it left an impression on me nonetheless. Following the first of these dreams, I wrote, &#8220;hundreds of miles away&#8221;, &#8220;sea tower that once stood at Ward&#8221;, and &#8220;explosion.&#8221; I was lazy and that&#8217;s all I jotted down, but within 24 hrs. I happened to see a news report which made me pause. There was a plane landing accident somewhere in Europe and one of the control towers was struck and there was perhaps an explosion. Definitely not in exact accordance with the images in the dream for the location of the dream involved a local area which I&#8217;m familiar with, but the meaning and the similarity in the theme of the dream made me a bit nervous.</p>
<p>The next dream followed three or five days after this. In it I was on a bus and we were about to get swept away in a very strong current of water (in the dream it looked like a river under a concrete bridge)but I managed to &#8220;will&#8221; myself against the current and make it back to safe ground. Less than 24 hours later I happen to be watching the news and my attention was caught immediately by the report of a family who were spending time at the beach; their little boy was swept away by the currents and drowned despite the father trying to rescue him.</p>
<p>The last of the series involves a friend who was away on a trip at the time. I can&#8217;t recall the exact sequence or the images involved but I do remember that my friend looked very withdrawn and depressed and I got the impression that this meant things weren&#8217;t going well for him on his trip. Leaving out personal details aside, on his return he confirmed that things didn&#8217;t turn out the way he&#8217;d wanted but that he was &#8220;fine&#8221; with it &#8212; I doubt that somehow.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure if these dreams are in any way related to the real events but they were certainly odd for me. What strikes me is that the images I see doesn&#8217;t exactly correspond with the real events, but the underlying meaning with the general images of  the dream and the feeling and impression it left on me seem to match the real events.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea though I might end up hearing Om chants in my dreams. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea though I might end up hearing Om chants in my dreams. <img src='http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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