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		<title>By: Clara</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 17:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then my friends can you not for see ..that our battle will be that of energy. US dollars and Gold may now be our currency..but here is something we already search for despratly.

Tell me you havent noticed the growing number of energy drinks... the organic food... the energy pills. It&#039;s a quickly growing trend and for what in the end? We have manipulated all the resources on this earth and have somehow managed to wear ourselves out. I think we will measure our wealth as to how much energy we can obtain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then my friends can you not for see ..that our battle will be that of energy. US dollars and Gold may now be our currency..but here is something we already search for despratly.</p>
<p>Tell me you havent noticed the growing number of energy drinks&#8230; the organic food&#8230; the energy pills. It&#8217;s a quickly growing trend and for what in the end? We have manipulated all the resources on this earth and have somehow managed to wear ourselves out. I think we will measure our wealth as to how much energy we can obtain.</p>
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		<title>By: zero</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would love to see a return to a gold standard.  something that has held value since the dawn of currency.

Even competing currencies would be better than forced compliance with fiat dollars. 

the elite who print money out of thin air, have bought vast amounts of real estate, resources etc with the worthless dollars.  They will lose their host (tax payers) if the dollar collapses but they for the most part will be safe &amp; secure for a generation at least.

looking forward to collapse of NWO and renaisance of grass roots spirituality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would love to see a return to a gold standard.  something that has held value since the dawn of currency.</p>
<p>Even competing currencies would be better than forced compliance with fiat dollars. </p>
<p>the elite who print money out of thin air, have bought vast amounts of real estate, resources etc with the worthless dollars.  They will lose their host (tax payers) if the dollar collapses but they for the most part will be safe &amp; secure for a generation at least.</p>
<p>looking forward to collapse of NWO and renaisance of grass roots spirituality</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua J.</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beleive that we can change what is happening or we can just sit back as we have been for a very long time and let other people &quot;elite&quot; make decisions for us. irregardless of whether or not you beleive in conspiricy theories or not they are suppressing knowledge, everything from UFO&#039;s, the truth about global warming, to  archeological finds, our past, these are fact&#039;s most importantly their very inteligent thats how they got where they are, and suppression of knowledge. They have planned this they know you can&#039;t just print money out of thin air for ever when the dollar colapsed they would be in the same boat as everybody else except their pile of green trash &quot;dollars&quot; would be bigger. The people who are truly currently in charge already have their next big save us speech written up for the frontmen &quot;our leaders&quot;. We have to stand up and say No were not going along with this anymore &quot;non-violent&quot; it can be done without violence but everyone has to stand together. I don&#039;t know what their up too but if it is left up to them it will be largely in their best intrest not everyone as whole. Their is alot of debate on whether 2012 will be a global catastrophy or a spiritual awakening or both depending on whether or not you are conscously ready or not. I don&#039;t beleive it will end but great change. Anyone can see scientificly that things are changing on our planet and the others as well includind the sun and goverments are digging holes in the ground all over the world on a very large scale.  I&#039;ll get back to my point I just think its important everyone know whats going on. We all have to come together around the world this will be a time of change their is alot of disinformation and opinions about it, but if we just sit back and wait it may not be what we all want.   peace to all. 

P.S. just caught a utube video with u Micheal on the webout prediction&#039;s Ialso seen your interveiw with Project Camelot keep on your doin&#039; a good thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beleive that we can change what is happening or we can just sit back as we have been for a very long time and let other people &#8220;elite&#8221; make decisions for us. irregardless of whether or not you beleive in conspiricy theories or not they are suppressing knowledge, everything from UFO&#8217;s, the truth about global warming, to  archeological finds, our past, these are fact&#8217;s most importantly their very inteligent thats how they got where they are, and suppression of knowledge. They have planned this they know you can&#8217;t just print money out of thin air for ever when the dollar colapsed they would be in the same boat as everybody else except their pile of green trash &#8220;dollars&#8221; would be bigger. The people who are truly currently in charge already have their next big save us speech written up for the frontmen &#8220;our leaders&#8221;. We have to stand up and say No were not going along with this anymore &#8220;non-violent&#8221; it can be done without violence but everyone has to stand together. I don&#8217;t know what their up too but if it is left up to them it will be largely in their best intrest not everyone as whole. Their is alot of debate on whether 2012 will be a global catastrophy or a spiritual awakening or both depending on whether or not you are conscously ready or not. I don&#8217;t beleive it will end but great change. Anyone can see scientificly that things are changing on our planet and the others as well includind the sun and goverments are digging holes in the ground all over the world on a very large scale.  I&#8217;ll get back to my point I just think its important everyone know whats going on. We all have to come together around the world this will be a time of change their is alot of disinformation and opinions about it, but if we just sit back and wait it may not be what we all want.   peace to all. </p>
<p>P.S. just caught a utube video with u Micheal on the webout prediction&#8217;s Ialso seen your interveiw with Project Camelot keep on your doin&#8217; a good thing</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Deyris</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzie Deyris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we can revere the life we are given and  trust that life spirit, no matter what, the whole planet sings and even our little wounds heal quickly. In our healing we heal a part of the greater organism. In suffering and guilt of the plight of others we do not honour them or give to them but lower the overall light energy of the organism. Dark energy is everywhere, fear and judgement, jealousy and meanness. Every day have have many choices towards wisdom and intelligence. A choice based on love and excitement for the life that runs in our veins, honours our own life and  life itself, Any minute, any experience cannot be compared or weighed against any other persons experience except in a very superficial way. We do not know the whole truth of anything, but only witness cause and effect, and grow towards a gratitude and awe. We are energetic little electrical sparks, part of each and every one of us coming from stardust that swam in the galaxies millions of years ago.We are little creators who in the light of love glow and can cause miraculous creation. In memory we keep our mistakes and learning but must be careful not to hold too tightly and recreate, but learn and imagine and transform into a new and enlifened world. Transformation is the path of energy. Everything transforms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we can revere the life we are given and  trust that life spirit, no matter what, the whole planet sings and even our little wounds heal quickly. In our healing we heal a part of the greater organism. In suffering and guilt of the plight of others we do not honour them or give to them but lower the overall light energy of the organism. Dark energy is everywhere, fear and judgement, jealousy and meanness. Every day have have many choices towards wisdom and intelligence. A choice based on love and excitement for the life that runs in our veins, honours our own life and  life itself, Any minute, any experience cannot be compared or weighed against any other persons experience except in a very superficial way. We do not know the whole truth of anything, but only witness cause and effect, and grow towards a gratitude and awe. We are energetic little electrical sparks, part of each and every one of us coming from stardust that swam in the galaxies millions of years ago.We are little creators who in the light of love glow and can cause miraculous creation. In memory we keep our mistakes and learning but must be careful not to hold too tightly and recreate, but learn and imagine and transform into a new and enlifened world. Transformation is the path of energy. Everything transforms.</p>
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		<title>By: Liara Covert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liara Covert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economic changes reflect an increasing spiritual awareness of humanity. Growing consciousness means people are choosing to shift focus away from the material world. Those people who are attuning to energy vibrations recognize this has far-reaching implications that mean our very make-up is transforming into something incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economic changes reflect an increasing spiritual awareness of humanity. Growing consciousness means people are choosing to shift focus away from the material world. Those people who are attuning to energy vibrations recognize this has far-reaching implications that mean our very make-up is transforming into something incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ironic this way:

Suppose you do for a living the thing you enjoy, as a service to mankind, out of joy and passion for helping others and working toward the greater good of mankind and mother earth.

Now let&#039;s assume a collapsed economy. Would you not continue to perform the duties you have decided for yourself to be worthwhile?  Now you may not be rewarded in currency, but if each and everyone still works toward the goal of helping each other, the reward still comes in some material form. 

Now let&#039;s assume your chosen duties in life were to manipulate people for finacial gain in the form of monetary reward. What to you do now? There is no money left to pillage. Your &quot;job&quot; is obsolete. You may not have even basic survival skills. You are now at the mercy of the kind-hearted. 

Do you think the manipulator will fall to their knees when they tables have turned? I don&#039;t know. But it certainly is easy for me to see how collapse of the current system could play out to be beneficial and a valuable lesson on a spiritual level. I whole-heartedly belive there&#039;s a better way and it&#039;s coming......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic this way:</p>
<p>Suppose you do for a living the thing you enjoy, as a service to mankind, out of joy and passion for helping others and working toward the greater good of mankind and mother earth.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s assume a collapsed economy. Would you not continue to perform the duties you have decided for yourself to be worthwhile?  Now you may not be rewarded in currency, but if each and everyone still works toward the goal of helping each other, the reward still comes in some material form. </p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s assume your chosen duties in life were to manipulate people for finacial gain in the form of monetary reward. What to you do now? There is no money left to pillage. Your &#8220;job&#8221; is obsolete. You may not have even basic survival skills. You are now at the mercy of the kind-hearted. </p>
<p>Do you think the manipulator will fall to their knees when they tables have turned? I don&#8217;t know. But it certainly is easy for me to see how collapse of the current system could play out to be beneficial and a valuable lesson on a spiritual level. I whole-heartedly belive there&#8217;s a better way and it&#8217;s coming&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.thethoughts.co.uk/thoughts/what-does-the-economic-collapse-mean/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the words and for sharing this very pertinent information Michael!

Everything appears to be timed towards a great convergence, through which many aspects - global, cultural, social and individual - are culminating.  It&#039;s the pathway into a new global consciousness which will be united in both the physical and the spiritual realms.  It&#039;s a balance which can already be felt if one is so inclined.

We are where we are meant to be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the words and for sharing this very pertinent information Michael!</p>
<p>Everything appears to be timed towards a great convergence, through which many aspects &#8211; global, cultural, social and individual &#8211; are culminating.  It&#8217;s the pathway into a new global consciousness which will be united in both the physical and the spiritual realms.  It&#8217;s a balance which can already be felt if one is so inclined.</p>
<p>We are where we are meant to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael St.Clair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael St.Clair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent assessment I agree with totally. Everything necessary is said in very few powerful and inspiring words.

As to the time frame you were asked about - (as a mundane astrologer I can help) - the most volatile years are until 2020, when Saturn closes its waning cycle onto Pluto in the sign Saturn rules, Capricorn. Complete collapse is in early 2011. 

The next full decade and more is for sure how long it will take to create a new economy. I agree that a wider more advanced consciousness is in the making over one human life time, or an Uranus cycle, by 2050-2080. 

There is a correlation between Saturn / Pluto waning cycles when in Capricorn, and economies worldwide as juxtaposed to world trends over say 2,500 years we are able to compare the last eleven Pluto cycles. (Pluto takes 250 years for the whole Zodiac and is thus in Caricorn once every 250 years.)

This time the situation is also massively triggered by Uranus, adding to an explosive mix of economic consciousness.

This is an outstanding statement everyone should read. Brilliant web site also.

Peace
M StC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent assessment I agree with totally. Everything necessary is said in very few powerful and inspiring words.</p>
<p>As to the time frame you were asked about &#8211; (as a mundane astrologer I can help) &#8211; the most volatile years are until 2020, when Saturn closes its waning cycle onto Pluto in the sign Saturn rules, Capricorn. Complete collapse is in early 2011. </p>
<p>The next full decade and more is for sure how long it will take to create a new economy. I agree that a wider more advanced consciousness is in the making over one human life time, or an Uranus cycle, by 2050-2080. </p>
<p>There is a correlation between Saturn / Pluto waning cycles when in Capricorn, and economies worldwide as juxtaposed to world trends over say 2,500 years we are able to compare the last eleven Pluto cycles. (Pluto takes 250 years for the whole Zodiac and is thus in Caricorn once every 250 years.)</p>
<p>This time the situation is also massively triggered by Uranus, adding to an explosive mix of economic consciousness.</p>
<p>This is an outstanding statement everyone should read. Brilliant web site also.</p>
<p>Peace<br />
M StC.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it very much depends on the time-frame we view this in.  I don&#039;t mention a time-frame in my post - which was a general outline of my thoughts, rather than anything specific.

I actually feel that this will play out over the next 30 to 50 years.  We are now at the start of a transition period where we are moving away from the existing system and into something else.

Most likely as you point out - a more controlled system.  My feeling is that such a system won&#039;t last more than a few decades.  By around 2038 or so I suspect we will see the start of a new way of life emerging.

So in the short term things may not be so bright - but we need to pass through that to get to the other side.  It&#039;s over the next 30 years where the majority of people will &#039;wake up&#039;.  At least I hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it very much depends on the time-frame we view this in.  I don&#8217;t mention a time-frame in my post &#8211; which was a general outline of my thoughts, rather than anything specific.</p>
<p>I actually feel that this will play out over the next 30 to 50 years.  We are now at the start of a transition period where we are moving away from the existing system and into something else.</p>
<p>Most likely as you point out &#8211; a more controlled system.  My feeling is that such a system won&#8217;t last more than a few decades.  By around 2038 or so I suspect we will see the start of a new way of life emerging.</p>
<p>So in the short term things may not be so bright &#8211; but we need to pass through that to get to the other side.  It&#8217;s over the next 30 years where the majority of people will &#8216;wake up&#8217;.  At least I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely with the sickness this system has created in society. My outlook currently isnt too optimistic I believe with almost complete conviction that humanity will grasp onto this system with all its energy as if its life depended on it instead of taking the conscious decision to just let it go. and because of that the ultimate outcome will be negative a reformed system with further consolidated wealth and an even greater increase of a state of artificial lack. 

God will always honor free will and so as nice it is to hope this is the end of the elite and the beginning of a life of abundance it simply will not be so if the people are not choosing it with their will, which they are not from my experience. When surfing the web it may seem many people are and many people are yet the true multitudes are not they really are not they want more they haven&#039;t learnt the lesson its only fair they have more another 200 years maybe then they get to make the choice again the problem is God is infinite but its patience is not and our time IS allotted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with the sickness this system has created in society. My outlook currently isnt too optimistic I believe with almost complete conviction that humanity will grasp onto this system with all its energy as if its life depended on it instead of taking the conscious decision to just let it go. and because of that the ultimate outcome will be negative a reformed system with further consolidated wealth and an even greater increase of a state of artificial lack. </p>
<p>God will always honor free will and so as nice it is to hope this is the end of the elite and the beginning of a life of abundance it simply will not be so if the people are not choosing it with their will, which they are not from my experience. When surfing the web it may seem many people are and many people are yet the true multitudes are not they really are not they want more they haven&#8217;t learnt the lesson its only fair they have more another 200 years maybe then they get to make the choice again the problem is God is infinite but its patience is not and our time IS allotted</p>
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